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Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 20:44:41 -0400
From: Farfl
Subject: [CB] Welcoming Committee, Vichy Auction
List Server wrote:
>From: LeliaLoban
>Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 07:35:07 EDT
>Subject: [CB] Spare Parts? A part of the Contrabass community, again.
>
>I'm also delighted to see new messages coming in from prodigal contramaniac
>Steven Lederman--
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>[snip]
>You're doomed.... ;-) Welcome back!
>
>Lelia Loban
Trust Lelia to really make a person feel welcome!
You're absolutely right, too; I AM doomed. After Grant posted his message about the auction in Vichy, France, I secured myself an absentee bidder form and bid on the instrument that really caught my interest - a 1930s Selmer bass clarinet, made entirely of metal. The estimate on the instrument was 800 Euros, and I bid 1156 Euros......I nearly fell out of my chair this morning when Mousieur Larent e-mailed to say that the instrument went for 3500 Euros!!! Wow....for 3500 Euros, I'd buy myself a used, stinky, banged-up big ol' monster bass sax , and then I'd REALLY be in trouble! ;)
Here's a scoop, so start saving your disposable income - the next musical instrument auction in Vichy by the same folks takes place December 2nd.
Best Regards,
Steven
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From: "Brit Minor"
Subject: Re: [CB] Greetings from a new member
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 20:22:40 -0400
>I'm a new list member and soon-to-be new contrabass BBb clarinet player.
Yes, welcome to the list and contrabassland, Debbie. I joined both a couple of years ago, as BBb contra player for the Charlottesville Municipal Band. I play the band's LeBlanc paperclip horn, which is serviceable but has needed frequent attention from our competant local repair folk. Having some interest in how to deal with squeaks, intonation problems, and plumbing, I've kept a "CB digest" of my own these past two years with relevent newbie items from this list, which I'll forward to you directly.
Brit Minor
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Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 17:45:39 -0700
From: Grant Green
Subject: Re: [CB] Welcoming Committee, Vichy Auction
At 08:44 PM 6/17/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>Trust Lelia to really make a person feel welcome!
>You're absolutely right, too; I AM doomed. After Grant posted his message
>about the auction in Vichy, France, I secured myself an absentee bidder
>form and bid on the instrument that really caught my interest - a
>1930s Selmer bass clarinet, made entirely of metal. The estimate on the
>instrument was 800 Euros, and I bid 1156 Euros......I nearly fell out of
>my chair this morning when Mousieur Larent e-mailed to say that the
>instrument went for 3500 Euros!!! Wow....for 3500 Euros, I'd buy myself
>a used, stinky, banged-up big ol' monster bass sax, and then I'd REALLY be
>in trouble! ;)
>Here's a scoop, so start saving your disposable income - the next musical
>instrument auction in Vichy by the same folks takes place December 2nd.
>Best Regards,
>Steven
I'd like to know what the sarrusophones and the mullerphone went for. Didn't have an opportunity to bid on anything this time (maybe December...). I did a little research on the mullerphone, which is apparently pretty rare. It is an early form of contrabass clarinet , invented by Louis Muller (Lyon, FR) around 1855. LM was an early pioneer and developer of the clarinet, who invented an alto clarinet folded bassoon-style: the mullerphone must have been the logical extension :-)
Enjoy,
Grant
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Grant Green contrabass.com
Sarrusophones & other Contrabass Winds
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Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 00:33:02 -0700
From: Craig Durham
Subject: Re: [CB] Welcoming Committee, Vichy Auction
So the dreaded "bassoon-style bass clarinet" has a formal name. I've been fascinated with that horn since seeing one in a book years ago.
I saw a catalog of instruments of the sort that have been mentioned in connection with Vichy. It was on the web - I don't recall the url. The site was in French, and it had a picture of the Mullerphone, among others. The instruments appeared to be for sale, but the pictures looked like plates from a book. Hmm...
If I wanted to make an extended bell for my Selmer contra-alto (looking for at least low Db / concert E1, to cover string bass parts without jumps), what would be the best way to go about it? It seems to me this would be easier than making an extension to the body - it would also avoid having the mouthpiece even further from the floor than it is now.
Craig
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From: "Merlin Williams"
Subject: Re: [CB] Extending the range
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 07:52:08 -0400
Visit Merlin's Mouthpiece
Jupiter Saxophone Artist/Clinician.
> If I wanted to make an extended bell for my Selmer contra-alto
> (looking for at least low Db / concert E1, to cover string bass parts
> without jumps), what would be the best way to go about it? It seems
> to me this would be easier than making an extension to the body - it
> would also avoid having the mouthpiece even further from the floor than
> it is now.
I used to own a Selmer USA contra-alto that I had extended to D (F concert). Steve Fox made the extension out of delrin, and installed a r.h. thumb key to work it. The only problem was the height of the horn - that extension added a good 6 inches to the instrument.
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From: TRUTHIST1
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 18:34:48 EDT
Subject: [CB] Bb bari sax player, extend range to low A or lower?
Hi all on this list,
After some long lurking, this is my first, and hopefully not last, post here.
I play a 1956 Martin bari sax, just low Bb, and wounder (ouch !) if there are any plastic, or other material, bell extenders to play low A ( low C concert ) and maybe below? If not, I am thinking about building one,
Is it true that the newer low A bari saxes don't play in tune as well as the older low Bb bari saxes ? (Hope the war on that ends this millennium, LOL)
Some day, saving my nickels by the tons, I would like to get a Eb contra-bari or Eb contra-bass sax , the one that goes one octave lower.than the bari. Is the Tubex (I think it's called) less volume than the older design, larger bell Eb CB sax? It is less money and may be easier to play, taking less wind, I guess.
Another topic, the guys in our 16-20 piece swing band all say that I can't learn to double on Bb clarinet after starting on bari. So I just bought an old metal clarinet, and will get it from the repair shop tomorrow, all rebuilt. If I can learn it, maybe mostly low and middle registers, I can play the 4th or 5th clarinet part sometimes written in my 5th bari sax parts. (I'm still waiting for the other 4 bari sax players to show up; don't know why they gave me the fifth, all by myself, hic !)
Thanks for any advice.
Remember, you can tuna fish, but you can't tune a sax. Da deBing, Da deBoom !
(Oh) Brother Dave
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