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2000-07-10

Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2000 19:35:23 -0400
From: "farfl's house"
Subject: [CB] Something lost in the translation...
>
Yikes! Here's the paragraph that started this thread, translated into English. Well, more like "babelish";
>Nat?rlich! I have said in France, Italy and Spain one call an H - SI, a B - SI-BEMOL, and
> that the Russians use both systems. I also asked " give it here any Greek and which
> character her use "
> headache. Try this--submit some text to Babelfish:
>
> http://babelfish.altavista.com/translate.dyn
>
> Start out with one of the messages from this list and run it through a few=
> iterations of translation (e.g. English to French, French to German,=
> German to English) and you'll see that automatic translation has a long=
> way to go!
>
> Cheers,
> Chuck
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From: CoolStu67
Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 20:03:37 EDT
Subject: Re: [CB] Foreign language
If Japanese is the language of sumo wrestlers why this list cannot
be in Japanese? >>
Because aviation is a common practice with all nations, like blowing your
nose. Plus I was kidding.
Stuart
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Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 01:15:26 +0100
From: David Taylor
Subject: Re: [CB] Selmer sopranino
In message <3967C20B.462B1869@com>, Feodor writes
>David Taylor wrote:
>> In message <396640CA.D054E35B@com>, Feodor writes
>> >Andrew Stiller wrote:
>> >> At 2:57 PM -0400 7/7/00, Feodor wrote:
>> >> >It's quite simple. In the USA European H is called B and European B is called
>> >> >Bb...
>> >>
>> >> Mon dieu! L'"Europe" n'est pas tout ? fait la m?me chose que
>> >> l'Allemagne! Les fran?ais, je crois, auriait quelque chose ? dire de
>> >> cette arrogance. Les italiens, aussi. Espagnols. Grecques...
>> >
>> >Par moi, l'Europe est la Russie (mais, l'?tat, pourtant, n'est pas moi...:):)
>> >D'accord, mon ami, je crois que en France, en Italie et en Espagne l'H est si, le
>> >B est si-bemol et cetera. D'ailleurs, les Russes utilisent les deux formes: 'si'
>> >et 'H'...
>> >Y a-t-il quelqu'un de Gr?ce ici? Quelles lettres utilisent-elles?
>> >
>> >Feodore,
>> >un gar?on europ?en
>>
>> Sprechen sie Deutsch? Ma Francais et tres tres merde.
>
>Nat?rlich! Ich habe gesagt den in Frankreich, Italien und Spanien man nennst ein H -
>si, ein B - si-bemol, und das die Russen benutzen beide Systeme. Ich auch fragte
>"gibt es irgendein Grieche hier und welches Zeichen sie verwenden"
Eta pravda. Yar nye znayoo o Griekskiye B/H tozhe.
Spasibo (Andrew tozhe)
Dave
(purely for the sake of linguistic completeness; not that my Russian is
any good at all)
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From: "Sean Tan"
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 11:22:03 -0700
Subject: [CB] ContraBass Register pad opening adjustment
hi all,
This is my first posting in the Contrabass Forum :)
I would like to seek your advice regarding the following problem:
My Clarinet Choir had recently borrowed a Leblanc (Straight model 342)
ContraBass for a concert gig. the low chalumeau register plays fine, so is
the notes from clarion G upwards to high C.
however, the problem arises when playing the range from clarion-B to E.
These notes do not speak well or do not come out easily on this particular
contra. I often have to start playing from a clarion-G downwards to get the
notes. Could it be a problem of the register pads opening (since the right
hand 4th finger activate/deactivate the 2nd register-key opening.) I use the
stock leblanc mouthpiece with stock metal ligature and a Vandoren 4
Contrabass reed. please advice.
Thank you
Sean

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From: Fmmck@.com
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 00:17:20 EDT
Subject: Re: [CB] ContraBass Register pad opening adjustment
In a message dated 7/9/00 11:21:18 PM, schizo writes:
<< however, the problem arises when playing the range from clarion-B to E.
These notes do not speak well or do not come out easily on this particular
contra. I often have to start playing from a clarion-G downwards to get the
notes. Could it be a problem of the register pads opening (since the right
hand 4th finger activate/deactivate the 2nd register-key opening.) >>
Sean-
I had exactly the same problem. You are right about what is happening. The
remaining question is whether the problem lies in the cork (or other
material) that goes between the top-to-bottom linkage (one of five such
linkages), or if it is the screw adjustment associated with that linkage.
This screw is located just below the left thumb on mine.
When I obtained mine, it appeared to be in good condition, but many notes did
not come out right. It turned out that all five linkages between the top and
bottom, were missing their cork spacers. My local repairman noticed that
problem right away, but I had to find the adjustment screw for the register
keys myself.
I suspect there may be some other condition such as a leaky pad, that affects
these notes. Mine still has a slight problem with the adjustment the best I
can make it.
Fred McKenzie
MMB
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From: Francis Firth
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 09:58:54 +0100
Subject: [CB] Clarinet in B, Bb, H
In German,
H is b natural and B is Bb.
Generally Mozart scores for Bb clarinet (or clarinet in A) but in, I think
it is, La Clemenza di Tito, he does ask for clarinets in B natural (or H).
Francis
Francis.Firth
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From: Francis Firth
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 10:39:25 +0100
Subject: RE: [CB] Octobass Flute Recording
Dear dave,
Sorry to be confusing but so are the websites.
Some say contrabass sax some say baritone sax but the sleeve says that it is
bass saxophone (at least this is how I remember it but I shall have to check
when I get home - it may even list bass sax on the track listing and refer
to baritone in the sleeve notes!).
The only thing they all agree on is the use of the octobass flute.
Francis Firth

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Robinson
Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2000 6:33 AM
Subject: Re: [CB] Octobass Flute Recording
Hello Francis,
So I'm confused. Does this CD contain bass sax as stated in your third
sentence, or baritone sax as stated in your sixth?
DR

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Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 09:38:42 -0700 (PDT)
From: JJ McLallen
Subject: Re: [CB] [Contra Digest]
I know that AltaVista has a translating function neart
their search engine. It's not the most accurate in the
world, but it gets ideas across. I once entered in the
Lord's Prayer in English, translated it to German, and
then back to English, and it was much different, but
the ideas were similar. I should try typing it in
German and see what comes of it.
JJ - the young repair tech
PS -- I may have found a job in Denver. I'll keep you
all posted.
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