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6 February 1997
EDITOR'S NOTE: Let's welcome new subscriber Erik Midtskogen < erik@firmsupport.com >, who has already posted his intro (below). Feel free to post more!
Author: "Grant D. Green"
<gdgreen@contrabass.com> at SMTP
Date: 2/4/97 5:40
PM
Subject: ContraTape
Paul,
Thanks for the tape! Received on Saturday, transferred to WAV on Monday and uploaded. I've put it on the contrabass sax page ( http://www.contrabass.com/cbsax.html ). If you have more info on the CD, I'll happily include that as well (e.g., publisher, catalog number, track listings, etc.).
Taking advance orders?
Thanks again,
Grant
From: PaulC135@aol.com
Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997
22:26:52 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: ContraTape
I've already heard from some that it is up and running. That's fast! I'm not at home for a few days, so I do not have access to the internet. I hope that you did not upload the entire performance. Could you let me know how much of it was put on?
Hope you liked the tune and the playing.
Paul Cohen
Author: gdgreen@contrabass.com (Grant Green) at
SMTP
Date: 2/5/97 10:47 AM
Subject: Re: ContraTape
>I've already heard from some that it is up and running. That's fast! I'm
>not at home for a few days, so I do not have access to the internet.
>I hope that you did not upload the entire performance. Could you let me know
>how much of it was put on?
>Hope you liked the tune and the playing.
>Paul Cohen
Paul,
In a fit of over-zealousness, I'm afraid I did. I did point out that the WAV file was a dub of a cassette which was a dub of a CD, and that the original CD will be of much higher audio quality. (The files are in 16-bit compressed mono) But I can trim the files down to whatever length you like, no problem.
I posted them as three files. The first file is only the first 12 seconds of the Cowell (253K). The other two files are about 73 seconds and 152 seconds (the rest of the piece). They're both pretty large files - the first is about 1.6 MB, and the second is about 3.3 MB. If you let me know how long you think is appropriate (in seconds), I can easily edit the files and replace them.
Sorry if I misunderstood.
BTW, I loved the tape, and am looking forward to the CD. Are you taking advance orders?
Grant
From: PaulC135@aol.com
Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997
16:47:20 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: ContraTape
Hi Grant,
I would like no more than 1/3 of the piece - perhaps the first slow part, first fast part then part of the slow part. Or the section towards the end that features the contra as solo. That should be enough to satisfy and intrigue peoples' interest.
I'm afraid that I can not trust myself to take advance orders. I will lose, or cash checks and forget who ordered what. When they are ready I will be quick to send them out. With some people, as yourself, I will simply send it out (or 10 or 20) and include an invoice. All others need to send $$ with the order.
Paul
Author: gdgreen@contrabass.com (Grant Green) at
SMTP
Date: 2/5/97 3:11 PM
Subject: Re: ContraTape
>Hi Grant,
>I would like no more than 1/3 of the piece - perhaps the first slow part,
>first fast part then part of the slow part. Or the section towards the end
>that features the contra as solo. That should be enough to satisfy and
>intrigue peoples' interest.
Paul,
I trimmed the "A" file down from 73 to 28.5 seconds, and the "B" file from 150 to 21 seconds, and posted them this morning (replacing the longer files): is that OK?
Looking forward to the new CD!
Grant
From: Francis Firth
<Francis.Firth@uce.ac.uk>
Subject: Cowell
Recording
Date: Wed, 05 Feb 97 08:56:00 GMT
Grant,
I forward to you the following message which I got in the post this morning from Paul Cohen.
"Grant posted that tape already? He is fast, I sent it only last week or so.
I'm travelling right now, and I do not have access to the Internet. Did he
post the entire piece or just a part of it. I did not intend for the whole
work to be included (that lessens the need to buy the CD!) If the entire
work is on, could you e-mail Grant and ask him to only post a portion. It
can be lengthy, but not in its entirety."
Hope I haven't dropped you in it. We shall all be buying the CD anyway, of course. BTW it sounds great!
Francis
Francis.Firth@uce.ac.uk
Author: gdgreen@contrabass.com (Grant Green) at
SMTP
Date: 2/5/97 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: Cowell
Recording
I guess he underestimated the speed of enthusiasm ;-)
I've already replied to Paul, and will trim down the files.
Grant
Author: Andrea Bruederlin
<tetra@mv.igs.net>
Date: 2/4/97 1:11 PM
Subject:
Re: Sarrusophones
Grant Green wrote:
> Now that you mention it ... ;-)
> I am still looking for contrabass sarrusophones in either C or Bb...
Hi Grant, hi everybody,
We got kind of taken by surprise with all the inquiries we received after you published our e-mail in your mailinglist, thanks a lot.
As we said, everything is stashed away in boxes in a basement. What we unpacked until now you can find on our website:
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Music_Treasures
We do know there is at least one contrabasse á anche probably Italian, one soprano sarrusophone, a few ophicleides, a couple of serpents etc. As soon as we've found them all we'll send some more information.
As we are guitar players (classical and jazz) we are more experienced with stringed instruments. We are travelling a lot and always come across instruments, especially in Europe. We also have a huge circle of musician friends. If you would like to give us some detailed information on what you are looking for we could maybe arrange some connections.
Thanks again and talk to you soon...
Regards,
Roger
and Andrea
Author: "Grant D. Green"
<gdgreen@contrabass.com> at SMTP
Date: 2/4/97 1:10
PM
Subject: Re: Sarrusophones
Ah, yes, we're a zealous bunch of nuts ;-)
At 01:54 PM 2/4/97 -0500, you wrote:
>As we said, everything is stashed away in boxes in a basement. What we
>unpacked until now you can find on our website:
> http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Music_Treasures
I think there may be something wrong with the web page: all I get is a 77x77 GIF image labelled "Hotdog" - nothing else. ?
>We do know there is at least one contrabasse _ anche probably Italian,
>one soprano sarrusophone, a few ophicleides, a couple of serpents etc.
>As soon as we've found them all we'll send some more information.
I already have a contra ad anche, but the sarrusophone may be interesting. Do you know off hand who made it, and roughly when?
>As we are guitar players (classical and jazz) we are more experienced
>with stringed instruments. We are travelling a lot and always come
>across instruments, especially in Europe. We also have a huge circle of
>musician friends. If you would like to give us some detailed information
>on what you are looking for we could maybe arrange some connections.>Thanks again and talk to you soon...
>Regards,
>Roger and Andrea
Thanks!
Grant
Author: Andrea Bruederlin
<tetra@mv.igs.net>
Date: 2/4/97 4:15 PM
Subject:
Re: Sarrusophones
Grant D. Green wrote:
> Ah, yes, we're a zealous bunch of nuts ;-)
> At 01:54 PM 2/4/97 -0500, you wrote:
> >As we said, everything is stashed away in boxes in a basement. What we
> >unpacked until now you can find on our website:
> > http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Music_Treasures
> I think there may be something wrong with the web page: all I get is a 77x77
> GIF image labelled "Hotdog" - nothing else. ?> Thanks!
> Grant
Try using:
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Music_Treasures/music.htm
Andrea
Author: "Daryl Fletcher"
<daryl@www.walker.public.lib.ga.us>
Date: 2/4/97
10:06 AM
Subject: Antique Sound Workshop
I just found an interesting web site for a company called Antique Sound Workshop. They have lots of unusual instruments for sale, mostly woodwind, but some brass, strings, and percussion.
http://www.capecod.net/aswltd/
By the way, Grant, you mentioned earlier that you had found a concert band to play in. How is that going? Are you getting to play your sarrusophone?
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Daryl Fletcher
daryl@www.walker.public.lib.ga.us
http://www.walker.public.lib.ga.us/~daryl/
Author: "Daryl Fletcher"
<daryl@www.walker.public.lib.ga.us>
Date: 2/4/97
1:30 PM
Subject: Re: Antique Sound Workshop
On 4 Feb 97 at 10:12, Grant D. Green said:
> Funny you should mention the band: I audition tonight. So far, I've
> sat in with them for two rehearsals. I played the first half of the
> first rehearsal on alto sax, and finished on contrabass clarinet.
> The second, I played entirely on contra, and that's what I'll
> audition on. The band is the San Jose Wind Symphony, and is a very
> high-caliber group. The music is fairly challenging: when was the
> last time you saw a contra part that had 32nd notes?
Good luck with your audition!
I've seen 32nd notes from time to time in solos and etudes, but never in band material. This doesn't seem like your typical concert band at all. Doing a quick search, I found their web site at http://www.inlancom.com/SJWS/
As I mentioned earlier, I started playing in a group called the Midsouth Concert Band a few months ago. It's a lot of fun, and we have some excellent musicians, but we're missing a bit in the low woodwind department. My favorite instrument will always be the tuba, but I really miss hearing the low woodwinds we had in other bands I have played in, especially the contrabass clarinet.
---------------------------------
Daryl Fletcher
daryl@www.walker.public.lib.ga.us
http://www.walker.public.lib.ga.us/~daryl/
Turns out I still haven't auditioned. So far, the director is apparently satisfied with my playing (or at least, he hasn't grimaced in my direction) (that I noticed). I've sat in with the SJWS for three rehersals now, the last two entirely on contrabass clarinet. Some of the pieces do not have parts for Bb contra, so I either double the bass clarinet part or transpose an Eb contra part (at sight).
There are two pieces in the book that I hope to play on the Eb contrabass sarrusophone. One is JS Bach's "Toccata and Fugue in D Minor", which does have parts for Bb contrabass clarinet and contrabassoon. These parts are essentially identical, but look like more fun on the sarrusophone (certainly louder!). The other piece is "Olympica" (composer to be filled in later), which is a quite challenging piece, but has no contrabass clarinet part (Bb or Eb) and no contrabassoon. Here, however, the director wants more of an "edge" from the low brass, so I suggested that I double the tuba on sarrusophone. He agreed to try it: maybe next week...
Grant
Author: "Erik Midtskogen"
<erik@firmsupport.com>
Date: 2/4/97 11:43
AM
Subject: Contrabass
Hello Grant,
I heard about your listserv, and would like to join up. I'm an organist who, from time to time, plays the very large symphonic organs of the Northeastern US, and I'm good friends with most of the very large double open diapasons, contra-ophicleides, contra-bombardes and diaphones found in the historic instruments of this region.
Cheers!
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CD Note:
About 10 digests ago, Mans Engman mentioned "Music by Frank Zappa", performed by Omnibus Wind Ensemble (Opus 3 records, CD 19403). If you're a fan of FZ and/or wind ensembles (I'm both), this is a great CD. The CD booklet lists the instrumentation for each track individually, so one can see quickly that 11 out of 15 tracks have either contrabass clarinet (Bb, judging from the cover photo) or contrabassoon, and three of those use both. Very interesting orchestrations! Also notable is the complete absence of trumpets, trombones and tuba (sorry guys!). There are a couple of French horns on most pieces, but otherwise the predominant sound is mainly clarinet/sax/bassoon, with oboe/EH on some pieces.
Grant
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