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Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 12:48:35 -0400 (EDT)
Today's Topics:
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 16:15:20 -0700
From: Grant
Green <gdgreen@contrabass.com>
To:
bbailey@nwol.net
Cc:
contrabass-list@contrabass.com
Subject: Re: CD's w/
contrabass & lower instruments
At 05:21 PM 7/17/95 -0700, you wrote:
>This is Gregg Bailey again, and you said you are curious about the CD I
>mentioned that has contrabass flute on it.
Found MUZE on the web ( http://www.muze.com ). It is apparently a music database system, showing all the CDs in print.
>each has contrabass flute and other flutes(I think ensemble):
>Mefano, Paul
>Contemporary Flute Music /
>Pierre-Yves Artaud
Already have this, ordered directly from Neuma. I think Francis Firth first told me about this one. It's worth listening to, but I'll warn you its pretty modern sounding. Its #5 on the contrabass flute discography page ( http://www.contrabass.com/pages/dis-cbfl.html )
> Rossini, Gioacchino
> Flauti a la Rossini: Sonate A
> Quatttro / Vienna Flautists
Just ran across this one a few months ago (at Tower). Its #4 on the discography.
>2 that have contrabass clarinet and other clarinets(ens.)
> Lonberg-Holm, Fred
> All These Things / Trigger
> CLASSICAL RECORDINGS Dept.
> Compact Disc
> Pogus Productions
> 21006
> (barcode #: 0 60342 10062 2)
This I haven't seen before ... time to try CDNow again...
> Bryars, Gavin
> Roger Heaton - Reich, Bryars,
> Feldman, Morricone, et al
Yes, this is a nice CD (1994 Clarinet Classics, CC0009). The contrabass clarinet isn't really very prominent anywhere on the CD, but the clarinet stuff is still great. Roger Heaton plays all the clarinet parts, multitracking where necessary.
>This one has an instrument called "triple contrabass!" part of the
>printout got ripped off, but here's what I can read:
> (something),Elliott
> (something)Sharp: K!L!A!V!
> CLASSICAL RECORDINGS Dept.
> Compact Disc
> (something) Classic Premier
> MCD 85504 (it looks like it could be just CD, or ACD, MCD, HCD,...)
> (barcode: 0 23721 23932 0)
This sounds intriguing, if we can figure out what it is.
>This has contrabass trombone:
> Pärt, Arvo
> Pärt: Arbos / The Hilliard
> Ensemble, et al
> CLASSICAL RECORDINGS Dept.
> CD / Cassette
> ECM New Series
> 21325
> (barcode: 0 81182 13252 9)
The Hilliard Ensemble is a vocal group that often does medieval and renaissance era works. Maybe in the early music section...
>This has sub contrabass recorder!
> Scheidt, Samuel or Woodcocke, Clement
> From Byrd to Birds / Musica Dolce
> CLASSICAL RECORDINGS Dept.
> Compact Disc
> Bis Records
> CD 057
> (barcode: 0 50582 89892 2)
This I'll have to find!
>This one I don't remember what low instrument it has:
> Mitchell, Roscoe
> Roscoe Mitchell: Four Compositions
> CLASSICAL RECORDINGS Dept.
> Compact Disc
> Lovely Music
> LCD 2021
> (barcode: 0 23721 13982 8)
This has a contrabass sarrusophone. I had a copy of the CD, but it was completely defective (could not even play a note). There's another Roscoe Mitchell CD with contrabass sarrusophone on the discography page ( http://www.contrabass.com/pages/dis-cbsr.html ). Lovely Music has a web page somewhere.
If they're not on MUZE, they may be out of print now. Of course, there's still second hand CD stores...
Grant
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 18:17:32 -0700
From:
school@epix.net (by way of Grant Green
<school@epix.net>)
To:
contrabass-list@contrabass.com
Subject: Contra-alto vs.
Contrabass
I'm not sure how to post to the list. Do I mail you or just hit reply to the digest? Anyway, in regards to the c-alto vs. c-bass issue, my director says that contra-altos are simply cheaper. At the festivals that I've attended, I've only seen about 3 contrabasses, and those were mostly at tryouts. What a pity that most directors choose to put their lower-tier players on such a fantastic instrument! Also: I use Vandorens (#2; it's all they have) for my contra-alto, but they're contrabass reeds. Is this a major issue? Sometimes it seems as though such finesse concerns are so virtually nonexistent that I could slap a shingle on there and it would still work.
-C. Chappell
P.S. - I am sending you a forward under separate cover . It's hilarious, but a bit too lengthy to just send to the digest, I think.
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 18:17:35 -0700
From: Grant
Green <gdgreen@contrabass.com>
To:
school@epix.net
Cc:
contrabass-list@contrabass.com
Subject: Re: Contra-alto
vs. Contrabass
At 07:05 PM 4/23/97 -0700, you wrote:
>I'm not sure how to post to the list. Do I mail you or just hit reply to
>the digest? Anyway, in regards to the c-alto vs. c-bass issue, my
To post to the list, simply send your message to " contrabass-list@contrabass.com ". I think "reply" probably works too, but that also depends on how your email program reads the mail headers. [EDITOR'S NOTE: IT DOESN'T]
>director says that contra-altos are simply cheaper. At the festivals that
Well, that's certainly true. Curiously, I find that all lot of the band music I'm getting now has an Eb contralto part, but no Bb contrabass part. I'm learning to transpose on sight from Eb contralto and C contrabassoon parts.
>I've attended, I've only seen about 3 contrabasses, and those were mostly
>at tryouts. What a pity that most directors choose to put their
>lower-tier players on such a fantastic instrument! Also: I use Vandorens
>(#2; it's all they have) for my contra-alto, but they're contrabass
>reeds. Is this a major issue? Sometimes it seems as though such finesse
>concerns are so virtually nonexistent that I could slap a shingle on
>there and it would still work.>-C. Chappell
So long as the shingle is big enough ;-) If they fit the mouthpiece, that's what matters most. I've tried using Vandoren, Rico, and LaMarca (aka Leblanc) reeds on several different mpcs, and so far have obtained the best results with Vandoren #3s on a Leblanc mpc. On the other hand, I've never played contralto: you might find that the (seemingly) narrower LaMarcas are perfect for your mpc. The LaMarcas didn't fit the Leblanc contrabass mpc very well (seemed narrower). All three brands are supposed to be "one size fits all" for contrabass, contralto, and bass sax. I've ordered them from Woodwind & Brasswind, and typically received them fairly quick. Of course, at $25 per box, you may not want to experiment as extensively ;-). If you like, I can send you "one of each" from what I have to spare if you'd like to try out a few varieties.
Grant
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 16:15:22 -0700
From: Bob
Bailey <bbailey@nwol.net> (by way of Grant Green
<gdgreen@contrabass.com>)
To:
contrabass-list@contrabass.com
Subject: CD's w/ contrabass
& lower instruments
This is Gregg Bailey again, and you said you are curious about the CD I mentioned that has contrabass flute on it.
Well, I live in Odessa, TX, and in Midland, TX, we have a music store(of books, CD's, tapes, computer software, etc...) called Hastings, and in the cd/tape area are a couple of "computers" that let a person know just what cd's and tapes are available(period) by categories. What I usually do is select CLASSICAL music, then search by INSTRUMENT. There is quite a long list of instruments to choose from. The only thing is, one computer seems to be "updated" while the other one is not, and all of my specialty instrument CDs I had found before that I had been interested in (and had gotten print-out receipts of containing bar codes and essential information)don't appear on the other computer that seems to be updated-- I wouldn't know why. Anyway, I found 3 or 4 cd's with contrabass flute, picked out 2, and gotten print-outs(this system is called Muze, and there is one for videos as well). I got print-outs of other low instrument cd's,too. I'll give you the catalogue numbers. If you can get any information about these, I would like to know, because out of my many print-outs, no music store has said that it has any information on the cd's or can even get them, that the Muze is a catalogue of what is supposedly "out there."
each has contrabass flute and other flutes(I think ensemble):
Mefano, Paul
Contemporary Flute Music /
Pierre-Yves Artaud
CLASSICAL RECORDINGS Dept.
Compact
Disc
Neuma
450-77
(Numbers under barcode: 0 84064
50772 4)
Rossini, Gioacchino
Flauti a la Rossini: Sonate
A
Quatttro / Vienna Flautists
CLASSICAL RECORDINGS
Dept.
Compact Disc
Orfeo Records
C 280921
(Numbers under barcode: 0 50582 33692 9)
2 that have contrabass clarinet and other clarinets(ens.)
Lonberg-Holm, Fred
All These Things / Trigger
CLASSICAL RECORDINGS Dept.
Compact Disc
Pogus
Productions
21006
(barcode #: 0 60342 10062 2)
Bryars, Gavin
Roger Heaton - Reich, Bryars,
Feldman, Morricone, et al
CLASSICAL RECORDINGS Dept.
Compact Disc
Clarinet Classics
CC 0009
(barcode:
0 89368 03172 7)
This one has an instrument called "triple contrabass!" part of the printout got ripped off, but here's what I can read:
(something),Elliott
(something)Sharp: K!L!A!V!
CLASSICAL RECORDINGS Dept.
Compact Disc
(something)
Classic Premier
MCD 85504 (it looks like it could be just
CD, or ACD, MCD, HCD,...)
(barcode: 0 23721 23932 0)
This has contrabass trombone:
Pärt, Arvo
Pärt: Arbos / The Hilliard
Ensemble, et al
CLASSICAL RECORDINGS Dept.
CD /
Cassette
ECM New Series
21325
(barcode: 0 81182
13252 9)
This has sub contrabass recorder!
Scheidt, Samuel or Woodcocke, Clement
From Byrd to
Birds / Musica Dolce
CLASSICAL RECORDINGS Dept.
Compact Disc
Bis Records
CD 057
(barcode: 0 50582
89892 2)
This one I don't remember what low instrument it has:
Mitchell, Roscoe
Roscoe Mitchell: Four
Compositions
CLASSICAL RECORDINGS Dept.
Compact
Disc
Lovely Music
LCD 2021
(barcode: 0 23721
13982 8)
If your interested in asking about these, let me know if you can find anything, because I can't even seem to find them on Muze anymore!!!!!
-Gregg
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 01:18:13, -0500
From:
KUUP84A@prodigy.com (MR MARK A TRINKO)
To:
contrabass-list@contrabass.com
Subject: LeBlanc Letter
Francis,
I think someone should call on the telephone as a followup to your letter. Also, if someone has time to use Yahoo and search for email address for Leblanc, that could help too.
Mark
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 00:35:53 -0700
From:
Charles Biel <cbiel@access.mountain.net> (by way of
Grant Green <gdgreen@contrabass.com>)
To:
contrabass-list@contrabass.com
Subject: Re:
contrabass-list Digest V97 #28
A note to all. Please include locations of upcoming concerts along with the standard info. Thanks much.
Chuck Biel