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2005-07-01


From: Rich Holmes
Date: 30 Jun 2005 23:20:28 -0400
Subject: Octavin (and intro)


How's this for a delayed response?  Googling for 'octavin' I found this old message:

  Author: A Myers
  Date: 1/9/97 8:19 AM
  Subject: Re: Contrabass-L, No. 72

  Mats 0ljare asks (8.1.97):

      > Does anyone know more about the old octavin??It appears in every music
      > dictoniary there is,but noone has ever seen one.
  [...]

  It has a folded air-column in manner of bassoon, with descending and
  ascending portions bored parallel in single block. Out-turned metal
  bell, silver-plated. Tone-holes are not long tunnels like bassoon, but
  relatively short passages like clarinet. Wooden single-reed mouthpiece
  with silver-plated ligature and cap.

  And no known repertoire !

  Arnold Myers

Nearly five years later there was a thread dealing with a straight octavin up for auction on eBay, which corrects one of the above points.  
Now here's correction (or update) of another:

<http://cinematone.net/cinematone/Page_1x.html> "The Music of Franklin Stover" makes mysterious reference to "Works for tarogato & octavin";  and <http://www.moviemusicuk.us/gallery-ab.htm> "Movie Music UK - Composer Gallery AB" -- entry for Jeff Britting includes, 'Other notable achievements include composing "Sonatina for Octavin", a score commissioned by composer and American rare instrument specialist, Franklin H. Stover...'

As far as I can tell these haven't been mentioned here before -- I apologize if they have.

As this is my first post here I suppose I should introduce myself. I'm here as a contrabass wannabe, never having played any real below-the-bass-clef instruments; the closest I've come was sitting next to the contra-alto clarinetist in our high school band, a thousand years ago -- I played bass clarinet back then.  (To low Eb.) These days the lowest instrument I own -- synths excepted, of course -- is an alto clarinet I just bought on eBay, which I'm intending to fix up.  And the one instrument on which I consider myself to have more than minimal skill (barely) is the diatonic button accordion, a.k.a. melodeon.

So I'll probably just sit over in this corner listening quietly for the most part.

- Rich Holmes
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From: "Gregg Bailey"
Date:
Fri, 01 Jul 2005 09:56:11 -0500
Subject:
[CB] "Octavin" as an organ stop

Has Mr. Tikker or anyone else mentioned the fact that many pipe organs have a stop called "Octavin"?  It sounds like there must be no relation to the real instrument, though.  The organ stop version is a high flutey stop pitched at 2', meaning that the speaking length of the longest pipe is only 2', and the whole stop sounds two octaves above normal pitch.

-Gregg
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From: "Chuck Guzis"
Date:
Fri, 01 Jul 2005 10:46:01 -0700
Subject:
Re: [CB] "Octavin" as an organ stop

On 7/1/2005,  Gregg Bailey  wrote:
>*Has Mr. Tikker or anyone else mentioned the fact that many pipe organs
>have a stop called "Octavin"?  It sounds like there must be no relation
>to the real instrument, though.  

Doesn't the French "octavin" term imply the same as the Italian "ottavino"; i.e. something which sounds at the octave?  Ottavino can mean a small spinet, piccolo (flute) or any other of a variety of high-pitched instruments.  Audsley isn't very clear about the exact nature of the octavin voice as used in organs, but apparently, the notion of this simply being a high-pitched flute voice isn't too far off:

http://www.organstops.org/h/Hellflote.html

Best regards,
Chuck
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From: "Gregg Bailey"
Date:
Fri, 01 Jul 2005 14:38:28 -0500
Subject:
[CB] Octavin stop

Well, here is the link for the page actually talking about the Octavin
organ stop:

http://www.organstops.org/o/Octavin.html


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