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From: lawrencejohns@webtv.net (lawrence johns)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 20:19:59 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Cylindrical brass
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.com
Larry,
> CONTRABASS@contrabass.com
> =========================
> *
>
> what about a valve trombone?
>What's your question about a Valve Trombone? It's still a cylindrically
bored instrument. When I say "Trombone", it can be a Valved model or a slide
model. A lot of Rossini's Operas were written with the Valve Trombone in
mind.
The Trombone's most distinguishing factor is its sound due to the way it's
wrapped (bent), not necessarily to a moving handslide, because of the models
known as "Valve" Trombones.Tom
(owner of three valve trombones
Eb Alto-3 piston valves
C Tenor-3 rotory valves
Bb Tenor-3 piston valves)
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---------------------------------------------------------Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 21:25:17 -0700
From: "Timothy J. Tikker" <timjt@awod.com>
Subject: Re: British Brass Bands
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.comSomehow through the internet I was able to track down an orchestration treatise
on British Brass Bands, and was able to buy a copy. I suppose I could retrace my
steps and figure out from whom I got it if anyone needed to know.The book is _Scoring for the Brass Band_ by Denis Wright, Studio Music Company,
London, 5th edition 1986.ISBN 0-905925-03-3
It gives a very thorough description of the brass band's instrumentation and how
it is used.- Timothy Tikker
PS: publisher's address:
77-79 Dudden Hill Lane
London NW10 1BD
England
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Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 21:28:21 -0700
From: "Timothy J. Tikker" <timjt@awod.com>
Subject: Re: British Brass Bands
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.comPPS: This book uses the spelling "Repiano" cornet.
- Timothy Tikker
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Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 21:57:26 -0400
From: Robert Howe <arehow@vgernet.net>
Subject: Re: Sax patents
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.comTHe Sax patents are reprinted in Wally Horvath's book on Adolphe Sax and
Gunter Dullat's volume of Saxophone patents. THey clearly show Bass
thru soprano on modern lines; contrabass folded like an ophicleide, but
not an actual ophi with a reed mpc. It is a common but unproven
upposition that A. Sax put a bass clarinet mpc on an ophi and was thus
inspired to invent the Saxophone. After all, his dad made ophis, the
son was dad's shop foreman, and the young Sax basically re-invented the
bass clarinet.I have in my collection, as luck would have it, a Charles JOseph Sax
(Adolphe's father) ophicleide. I have put a bass clarinet mouthpiece (a
modern one, to be sure) on it. Nothing musically valuable comes out the
other end when I blow on it and finger the keys. It would require a
redesign and re-placement of the tone holes. This Sax did, working from
first principle, and producing a design which has required only minor
modifications in 160 years.To tell who really knows their Saxophone history: "Adolphe" was not the
actual first name of the man who invented the Saxphone. What was it?
(Hint--it was NOT Charles Jr).For extra credit, what was his MIDDLE name?
Robert Howe
---------------------------------------------------------Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 20:10:22 -0700 (PDT)
From: Adam Kent-Isaac <lokibassoon@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Sax patents
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.com
I heard somewhere that his name was John, or Johann,
sax. If not, is it possibly , Gunther , Guntramm
Rudolfe Sax?--- Robert Howe <arehow@vgernet.net> wrote:
> THe Sax patents are reprinted in Wally Horvath's
> book on Adolphe Sax and
> Gunter Dullat's volume of Saxophone patents. THey
> clearly show Bass
> thru soprano on modern lines; contrabass folded like
> an ophicleide, but
> not an actual ophi with a reed mpc. It is a common
> but unproven
> upposition that A. Sax put a bass clarinet mpc on an
> ophi and was thus
> inspired to invent the Saxophone. After all, his
> dad made ophis, the
> son was dad's shop foreman, and the young Sax
> basically re-invented the
> bass clarinet.
>
> I have in my collection, as luck would have it, a
> Charles JOseph Sax
> (Adolphe's father) ophicleide. I have put a bass
> clarinet mouthpiece (a
> modern one, to be sure) on it. Nothing musically
> valuable comes out the
> other end when I blow on it and finger the keys. It
> would require a
> redesign and re-placement of the tone holes. This
> Sax did, working from
> first principle, and producing a design which has
> required only minor
> modifications in 160 years.
>
> To tell who really knows their Saxophone history:
> "Adolphe" was not the
> actual first name of the man who invented the
> Saxphone. What was it?
> (Hint--it was NOT Charles Jr).
>
> For extra credit, what was his MIDDLE name?
>
> Robert Howe
> ----------------------
> end contrabass list
>
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---------------------------------------------------------From: "Tom Izzo" <jeanvaljean@ntsource.com>
Subject: Re: The Hunger Site
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 00:07:05 -0500
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.com
06, 1999 6:08 PM
Subject: The Hunger Site
> Hope you don't mind receiving this. A friend brought this to my
> attention and I felt I had to pass it on...This is a chain letter, & regardless of the intention, good or bad, chain
letters are illegal.Sorry.
Tom
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Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 13:21:23 +0100 (BST)
From: Dafydd y garreg wen <mavnw@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Tubas in British Bands
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.com
On Wed, 6 Oct 1999, Adam Kent-Isaac wrote:> I thought that the British orchestration always called
> the tubas "Basses" and never "Tubas." I think the most
> commonly used was the Eb Bass, and the F Bass in the
> English bands.In English bands, there are, almost without exception, 2 Eb Basses (Tubas)
and 2 BBb Basses. The F Bass Tuba is popular in places like France and
Germany, I think, although whether they use Wagner tubas or not varies a bit.Dave Taylor
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Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 13:33:18 +0100 (BST)
From: Dafydd y garreg wen <mavnw@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: British Brass Bands
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.comOn Wed, 6 Oct 1999, Timothy J. Tikker wrote:
> The book is _Scoring for the Brass Band_ by Denis Wright, Studio Music Company,
> London, 5th edition 1986.This book is superb for when it was published-1936 originally, I think, at
which time Denis Wright was spearheading a bit of a revolution in Brass
Band scoring, making the first steps towards the more subtle style in
vogue today. However, the book has undergone only minor revision since
then (for example, replacing, in the section on instrumentation, the G
bass trombone with the Bb/F), and is now really only of use as an
introduction to the subject. For a more up to date version, try Ray
Steadman-Allan's 'Colour and Texture in the Brass Band Score', though even
this is 20 years old. I'm afraid I don't have any more details, but it's
published by the Salvation Army. If anyone's interested, I could find out
from the copy I've got at home.Dave Taylor
>
> It gives a very thorough description of the brass band's instrumentation and how
> it is used.Rather limited now, though.
>
> - Timothy Tikker
>
> PS: publisher's address:
>
> 77-79 Dudden Hill Lane
> London NW10 1BD
> England
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From: "Aaron Rabushka" <arabushk@cowtown.net>
Subject: Re: Tubas in British Bands
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 12:53:42 -0500
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.comAs long as we're talking about unusual instrumental ensembles does anyone on
this list know whatever became of the Horn Club of Los Angeles? I love their
old Capital Classics album "Color Contrasts" (named for George Hyde's
composition of the same name) and have never been able to find any other
information about them.Aaron J. Rabushka
arabushk@cowtown.net
http://www.cowtown.net/users/arabushk/
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Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 11:19:28 -0700
From: Grant Green <gdgreen@contrabass.com>
Subject: Re: Sax patents
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.com>To tell who really knows their Saxophone history: "Adolphe" was not the
>actual first name of the man who invented the Saxphone. What was it?
>(Hint--it was NOT Charles Jr).Adolphe was the name he went by, but he was born "Antoine".
>For extra credit, what was his MIDDLE name?
Joseph
Enjoy!
Grant
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Grant Green gdgreen@contrabass.com
http://www.contrabass.com
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---------------------------------------------------------Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 11:34:05 -0700
From: Grant Green <gdgreen@contrabass.com>
Subject: Heckelphone for sale!
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.comI received this yesterday, and after verifying with my wife that
there is no possible way on Earth that she'll let me buy it, I'm
forwarding it on to you ;-)*******************************************
Dear Grant,
I have just purchased Hecklephone #4963 (1963), so it is almost
certain that I will be selling my other Hecklephone #4244. Please post
this on your site and e-mail list: Description:Hecklephone #4244, made
in 1933. Conservatory system (basic)- although the G key is the later
spatula type and the F key is also simalar to current models. It extends
to low A. It is in excellent mechanical condition. It is in tune, evenly
voiced, and is possessed of a gorgeous full, rich tone. All the gold
trademarks are intact. It has no anomalies to speak of- even the "short"
notes (C,B,A) are quite good.
The instrument comes with 2 bocals, case (in perfect condition- no
felt wear) with original lock keys and cleaning swabs. The case cover is
in fair to poor condition, however. This Hecklephone is the veteran of
many MGM movie scores.
I plan to send this instrument to Mark Chudnow (Napa, California) in
about 4 to 6 weeks for consignment. The price will be $15,975
(absolutely firm).
Thankyou, Peter Hurd
peter@bells.org
********************************************Enjoy!
Grant
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Grant Green gdgreen@contrabass.com
http://www.contrabass.com
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